{"id":627,"date":"2007-08-09T22:49:58","date_gmt":"2007-08-09T22:49:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.odrakir.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/09\/the-state-of-the-coffee%e2%80%a6-the-open-kind\/"},"modified":"2007-08-09T22:51:32","modified_gmt":"2007-08-09T22:51:32","slug":"the-state-of-the-coffee%e2%80%a6-the-open-kind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.odrakir.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/09\/the-state-of-the-coffee%e2%80%a6-the-open-kind\/","title":{"rendered":"The State of the Coffee\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 The Open Kind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In April, I took the initiative of bringing the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.odrakir.com\/blog\/2007\/04\/12\/lisbon-opencoffee-club\/\">OpenCoffee Club project to Portugal<\/a>, most specifically to Lisbon. The project started as well as it could, with more than 10 people signing in the first week, which was good considering the nature of the event.<\/p>\n<p>For the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.odrakir.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/11\/lisbon-opencoffee-club-1st-meeting-review\/\">fist OpenCoffee meeting<\/a> we had 6 persons showed up, which was not a good number considering that by the time of the event, we had almost 20 members in the group. Nevertheless, considering that the OC philosophy consists in a informal meeting, almost like a coffee with friends, these 6 members (me included) had a really nice time, sharing experiences and knowledge as it was meant to be, unfortunately not all the goals of the OC were met.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What failed?<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>Well, <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.paradigma.pt\/pipermail\/tce\/2007-August\/000068.html\">today VD<\/a>, one of the members that is present on OCL since the beginning, wrote about the fact the OCL could not be successful as the OC in Boston (or any other around the world). The reasons he pointed (very well) are based on a few side chats we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been having since the first OCL meeting. <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> &#8211; We don&#8217;t have a lot of (new) entrepreneurs. The VC scene in Portugal is waaayyyy behind the rest of the world. Just go to London and see the differences, and that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a 2 hours plane trip.<\/li>\n<li> &#8211; Portuguese like agendas. If you organize a meeting \/ event with every aspect and topic detailed, people will criticize you but they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll come, no matter how inflexible the agenda is. If you put people comfortable, say it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an open meeting, say let\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s go with the flow and bam! You get no one. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s too risky and too \u00e2\u20ac\u0153out there\u00e2\u20ac\u009d for the majority of the Portuguese folk. We have been taught to follow the agenda, trade 100 mails deciding which does what, and without that everybody is lost. There\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no agenda in OpenCoffees, we could have it, but that removes all the purpose of the OC.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The biggest mistakes I made was to rush things too much and trust that people would show up, but since it was the first one, it would be more of an experience. We didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t had a second OCL meeting not by procrastination as <a href=\"http:\/\/mindboosternoori.blogspot.com\/2007\/08\/tech-events-in-portugal.html\">Marcos ranted about<\/a>, but because we saw immediately what failed, and unlike <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.cpinto.net\/2007-08-09-lisbon-opencoffee\/\">Celso\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s opinion<\/a>, the OpenCoffee formula doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t work in Portugal, not with the original format at least.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Next Step<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>VD and I tried to figure out a formula that could work here, and we took a glimpse at the major tech events here in Portugal so we could decide which elements would be beneficial to a new project. The OpenCoffee club was unlike all the others due to it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s easy going structure and philosophy, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not like Barcamp, TakeOff, Tecnonov, or any other except perhaps the regular meetings of some communities like the Perlmongers community.<\/p>\n<p>One of the most successful events we analysed was <a href=\"http:\/\/barcamp.org\/\">Barcamp Portugal<\/a> which takes place in Coimbra since it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s implementation in Portugal. Actually if we take a look at the events I mentioned before, the majority took \/ takes place in Coimbra, so having a OpenCoffee Portugal like Marcos mentioned would probably end being done in Coimbra, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s why I took only the Lisbon share and let others take the initiative for they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re own cities.<\/p>\n<p>We won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be doing an OpenCoffee Portugal or a Barcamp Lisbon. In fact our idea, like VD mentioned, is to make something between an OpenCoffee and a Barcamp. Our goal is to get a stable core of persons meet every 15 days to discuss whatever people pre-submit to an agenda (yes an agenda!) and depending on the agenda and the number of persons who\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll be attending (besides the stable core) we can take the event to one of the two possible formats:<\/p>\n<p>If there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a good number of people attending we make it like a Barcamp, if there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just the core group and a few number of persons we make it like an OpenCoffee. <\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s your point?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, our point is to carry on the OC philosophy, enrich it a little more with some structure and content type of a Barcamp and at the same time decentralizing most of these kind of tech events here in Portugal. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have anything against Coimbra (I actually love the city) but there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s lot\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s of people interested in this kind of events in Portugal, not only in Coimbra.<\/p>\n<p>Soon we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll have more information about the project and begin to recruit some voluntaries for the core. Meanwhile be free to join the OCL mailing list, we can then contact everyone from there.<\/p>\n<p>[tags]OpenCoffee, OpenCoffee Club Lisbon, Barcamp, Portugal, Lisbon, Coimbra[\/tags]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In April, I took the initiative of bringing the OpenCoffee Club project to Portugal, most specifically to Lisbon. The project started as well as it could, with more than 10 people signing in the first week, which was good considering the nature of the event. 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